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2 phat 2 fly?

Listened to Kevin Smith's latest podcast (smodcast.com, #106) about getting kicked off of a Southwest flight this weekend because they determined he was too fat to fly, even though it seems he could easily both buckle his seat belt and lower both arm rests (which are their requirements for being able to fly, so it's really, really confusing as to why they didn't follow their own rules). SW is doing some major damage control, but with Smith's legion of followers, they're not going to hear the end of this soon (their servers even crashed due to increased traffic).

Kudos to Smith for making some loud noises for people his size and larger (as he said many times, "I'm fat, but I'm not too fat to fit into their seats, and if I were, I'd be the first one to tell you about it"). His ordeal was certainly embarassing and unnecessary, but when he finally got onto another flight, the woman who sat next to him was pulled aside and told she might have to buy a second seat for the same reason, and for him to tell it, it was just heartbreaking for him and her.

I once again thank my fat friends for teaching me new definitions of pride, self worth and dignity.


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Feb. 15th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
and people wonder about why i may not want to fly sometimes. People like to say that gays are the last subjugated group. no. we fat fuckers are. But then i have gone on in my own journal and others how i have to walk late at night for exercise because of the shit i routinely get trying to do it when people are on the streets. or the shit i have gotten from doctors (especially when they keep expecting high cholesterol and i have very very low cholesterol) and i know i do not get half the shit a large woman does. Though a 45 mile per hour frosty to the hip while out walking may outrank a few things for sheer dickishness.
Feb. 15th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
I totally agree, and you are definitely not the only one of my friends who have been through that kind of crap. Oh, how I wish you knew my friends from San Diego - you'd be revered as a god amongst them! :)
Feb. 17th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC)
i could really use a few new worshippers too!
Feb. 17th, 2010 04:24 am (UTC)
Myrmidons! I love that word...
Feb. 17th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
i prefer Minions
Feb. 15th, 2010 08:16 pm (UTC)
Good for him. It's nasty being heavy in a culture where weight is treated as a moral and mortal sin.

We had a court case on this subject last year, and the court ruled that if a passenger requires two seats due to their weight, the airline has to provide at no extra cost. Another reason why I like the courts in this country.
Feb. 15th, 2010 10:48 pm (UTC)
Southwest, interestingly, probably has the best fat policy - they tell customers to buy two seats, but if the plane is not full, they will refund the second seat. I'm not fat, but I think that's pretty reasonable, for both their bottom line and for the traveller's comfort. Throwing them off the plane for "safety reasons" is BS, though, and that's what Smith went on about. I highly recommend his podcast.
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Feb. 15th, 2010 11:58 pm (UTC)
Like I said above, I think Southwest's stated policy is the most reasonable compromise - if you can't fit comfortably into one seat (i.e., buckle the belt and put down the armrests), you should buy a second seat, but if the plane is not 100% full, Southwest refunds the cost of that second ticket. I think that's fair, and I think a lot of my fat friends would agree, for their own comfort if nothing else. In this case, however, Southwest didn't even follow their own rules, and further extended the embarassment to another passenger when there wasn't a need to (the second seat was already purchased next to Smith).

It's a fair question, though, and I'd love to hear what my fat friends have to say.
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Feb. 16th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
I think their test of seatbelt and armrests is a pretty good indicator if it's going to impede on the person next to you or not.

I think there's also an argument to be made for installing a row or two of 1.5-sized seats to sell not only to bigger passengers, but for anyone who'd like more space, but with the way airlines are going financially, that ain't going to happen - if anything, they're going to keep finding ways to give us *less* room.
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Feb. 17th, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
The ironic part of this Kevin was returning from an appearance at the International Bear Rendevous withe the Bears of San Francisco in the Parc55 Hotel.
Feb. 17th, 2010 10:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Irony
I heard that, which just makes him 10 times cooler in my book.
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