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Thoughts on the "protection" of marriage


I'm hearing Prop 8 in California is leading in votes towards passing, but it's close enough that the absentee ballots may make a difference, so I'm holding out hope. Still disappointed with losing in Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado and Florida.

I have to say, though, that I'm not too worried. The way I've always predicted this will go is that somewhere along the line all these marriage bans will end up at the US Supreme Court and get struck down, if for no other good reason (of which there are many), due to full faith and credit. In California's specific case, they now have two conflicting laws in the state constitution - one says equality, one says not. This, too, will end up back in the courts, and if the California Supreme Court follows its own precedence it will rule that Prop 8 conflicts with equality, and will be struck down. That's part of their job, is to clarify when things conflict. It'll just take a little longer.

Needless to say, this affects us, as Q and I are definitely on the path to get married, and were going to pursue it further after we moved. (We will anyway, but this just kind of sucks for us, and even more so for all the other couples that are already married - yet another legal quandry they'll have to deal with.)

At least Michigan is allowing some legalized marijuana and stem cell research, Colorado and South Dakota didn't outlaw abortion, and Washington will allow for assisted suicide for terminal patients.

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esprix
Nov. 5th, 2008 05:18 pm (UTC)
I was referring to the government non-discriminatory ballot measure. Wasn't that you guys?
jezebelleinhell
Nov. 5th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
I am sure you are 100% accurate that this will end up as a Supreme Court decision. But geez... what a pain in the ass!

Like my cousin says.. "we didn't have to vote to allow black-white marriage". It's sorta ridiculous that the people who have pretty much RUINED marriage by all their extra marital shenanigans etc and now trying to "protect" it from teh gays.
esprix
Nov. 5th, 2008 06:45 pm (UTC)
Can we protect it from divorce, miscegenation and adultery next? Those seem to be the more pervasive problems...
jezebelleinhell
Nov. 5th, 2008 06:52 pm (UTC)
I read something somewhere that basically said...

Where are the signs and the activists fighting to abolish divorce? They need to preserve and protect marriage!

Yeah.... you just won't ever see that. Divorce is our RIGHT!
sftyson
Nov. 5th, 2008 11:25 pm (UTC)
I propose a new ballot initiative. If the haters think marriage is so sacred, then we need a constitutional amendment to ban divorce. Make it a crime to get a divorce.
dracut
Nov. 6th, 2008 12:51 pm (UTC)
Some time ago, Mass removed the 1913 law prohibiting people from out of state getting married if their jurisdiction of residence would otherwise prohibit it. So you can all get married in Mass if you like!

On Tuesday we also decriminalized small amounts of marijuana to be a civil matter with $100 fine. So special brownies at all the receptions!
felis_ultharus
Nov. 6th, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)
It's really nauseating that the bigots carried the day. Someone should dissolve their marriages and see how they like it.
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