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OK, my fellow eBayers, what do you think of this? I bid on a somewhat hard-to-find item, and am the highest bidder. I check in before the auction ends, and I notice that earlier another buyer - one with zero feedback and who created an account that same day - has put in multiple bids but did not manage to outbid me. All is well, but it makes me go, "Hmmm..." Then, at the last minute, I am sniped and outbid by another buyer - this one with 1 feedback, even though the account was created in 2003. So, I lose the auction, but those, to me, are two red flags of shill bidding. I reported the seller and will be curious to see what happens.

Anyone else ever have to deal with this?

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blktauna
Apr. 5th, 2007 02:54 am (UTC)
yep, and I blacklist that seller. Ebay probably won't do anything.
esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
OK, well at least I know it's not just me. Thanks, boo! :)
sa_am
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:36 am (UTC)
ebay is stupid crappy like that... that's why i stopped trying to buy anything off there...
esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 03:56 pm (UTC)
This is really the first time I've ever seen it. I buy a bunch of stuff off eBay, and so far I haven't had almost any problems, but this was just weird. I think maybe it was because it was such a rare item, and my winning bid was about half of what it actually went for.

What was it, you ask? Gay Monopoly. :D
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esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
So claimed, and for that I'll consider forgiving you. Dorkus.
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esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:30 pm (UTC)
We'll discuss.
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nolly
Apr. 5th, 2007 05:28 pm (UTC)
Haven't noticed that particular problem, but I started sniping in self-defense several years ago. It's gotten where it's practically impossible to win an auction without sniping, especially if it's something there's any demand for.
esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
I've taken eBay's advice, done my homework, and I put in a bid that I'm willing to pay (and isn't more than the highest I've seen the same item go for - most things I'm looking for I've been researching for months, so I know what they go for). If I'm outbid in that case, then I feel comforted by the fact that the winner paid more than it has gone for in the past (and everything I've wanted I *always* see come up again and again on eBay, even if there's a couple weeks in between - it's not like it's the only one in existence).

Unfortunately, there have been times I've gotten swept up in the last-minute bidding and sniping, and regretted it later, so I've learned. But in this particular case, it wasn't sniping, it was shilling, and that's uncool.
nolly
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:31 pm (UTC)
I don't put in a snipe bid that's more than I'm willing to pay or high for the item, but for the things I've bid on, it seems there are people who will outbid you almost on principle -- not shills so much as people who get caught up in the insanity, or something. If they can't see my bid before the last few seconds, my chances of being outbid are lower.
esprix
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
I see what you're saying, and yeah, it's true - I've gotten caught up in it, too, but have learned to take the longer view, often to my benefit.

It is weird, though - if you bid early at your desired amount, you lose, but if you bid at the last minute with the same amount, you might win. Humans are teh weeeeeird.
sftyson
Apr. 7th, 2007 09:00 pm (UTC)
It's been such a long time since I've bought anything off of EBay. But I am interested in getting an ipod, but don't want to pay the high retail price at the Apple store here.
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