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A new pope? Already? Sheesh, that was fast...

Edited to add: Ratzinger. Great. Hooray for conservatism in the church. Whoopee.

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phreespirit
Apr. 19th, 2005 04:44 pm (UTC)
*shazaaaaaaaaaam*
notwithoutrage
Apr. 19th, 2005 04:48 pm (UTC)
::vomits::
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esprix
Apr. 19th, 2005 06:12 pm (UTC)
I read that there were 8 conclaves in the 20th century, and they took an average of 3 days. The longest in history was 2 years, 9 months.
schnuder
Apr. 20th, 2005 03:10 am (UTC)
Pope on a Rope Soap: http://www.bubbletown.com/ (click Pope on the left hand side, about half way down)
paladin_of_gaia
Apr. 19th, 2005 04:55 pm (UTC)
And with the choice of Ratzinger, the church once again chooses a path of oppression and intolerance. I, for the record, am decidedly unsurprised.
agile1985
Apr. 19th, 2005 05:14 pm (UTC)
What else is new. Church/No Church, doesn't matter to me. I don't need one to abide by my beliefs. For those who do... more power to them. Yes I am a bitch at times.
jkusters
Apr. 19th, 2005 05:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, same here.

Joy.

Well, it probably won't be as bad as the Inquisition. Probably.

JOhn.
jbriggs
Apr. 19th, 2005 05:47 pm (UTC)
Coincidentally Cardinal Ratzingers previous position was Defender of the Faith, aka Grand Inquisitor. Isn't history amusing?
jkusters
Apr. 19th, 2005 05:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, amusing. *laugh*

JOhn.
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jayjaybear
Apr. 20th, 2005 04:14 am (UTC)
Actually, there were, I think, exactly four cardinals in this current College that were NOT appointed by Pope Chuck.
esprix
Apr. 20th, 2005 04:21 pm (UTC)
I think the official count was that only 2 of the cardinals who were eligible to vote were not ordained by John Paul II.
esprix
Apr. 20th, 2005 04:23 pm (UTC)
Actually I've heard repeatedly that just because a pope ordains them does not mean they're going to vote for his duplicate. The bigger question was whether they go with an older, "transitional" pope, or a younger pope that'll last a while.

But, yes, in general, the Catholic church will always be the Catholic church. It's just a shame that earlier in the 20th century some of those popes didn't make other doctrinal choices (although the second Vatican council was called by a so-called transitional pope, and he ended up changing the face of Catholicism pretty darned well - it was the one after him I think that was far more conservative).
jbriggs
Apr. 20th, 2005 05:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but John Paul I only lasted a few months. (as I ponder how come I know so much about the church, and more importantly, why I even care!)
esprix
Apr. 20th, 2005 10:33 pm (UTC)
Well let's see...

Benedict XV (1914-1922) - called for peace during WWI.
Pius XI (1922-1939) - got Vatican to be an independent state and made it wealthy.
Pius XII (1939-1958) - May or may not have done enough to stop the Holocaust.
John XXIII (1958-1963) - The "stop-gap" pope I mentioned, who called Vatican II.
Paul VI (1963-1978) - No birth control! (It's said that John XXIII might have allowed it, and although Paul VI continued overseeing Vatican II through his papacy, on this he did not capitulate to his predecessor.)
John Paul I (1978) - Died 33 days into the papacy.
John Paul II (1978... you know the rest)
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