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Ruminations on Constitutional amendments


Let's see, we want to write discrimination into the Constitution, and we don't want to pass that pesky ERA thing, but let's damn well get Arnold into the White House!

We're a screwed up country.

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bescincimevsim
Nov. 15th, 2004 02:23 pm (UTC)
Actually - the ERA is a bit insulting don't you think... I mean, you have the 14th ammendment...
esprix
Nov. 15th, 2004 02:34 pm (UTC)
In theory, but it hasn't really worked that way, has it? We needed an amendment to give women the right to vote, remember? And then there's that whole pesky racial equality thing.

Say, maybe that's the hook Arnold can use to get a whole new slew of civil rights legislation passed - he's being discriminated against because of his country of origin! Brilliant! He could be our savior!
bescincimevsim
Nov. 15th, 2004 02:42 pm (UTC)
Well, actually that's an issue with Article II s1 of the constitution - not the 14 ammendment...
esprix
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:03 pm (UTC)
As Rep. Pat Schroder once said, "The Pledge of Allegiance says, '... with liberty and justice for all.' What part of 'all' don't you understand?"

It should be easy, but it's not.
bescincimevsim
Nov. 16th, 2004 03:33 am (UTC)
Well, I could go on a "Britain's constitution is better because..." rant, but if you will insist on codifiaction...
nolly
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:13 pm (UTC)
You know, the Governator hasn't actually been as bad as I feared, so far. Not my dream governor, not by a long shot, but we could do worse than get him into the White House, I think. (I'd've preferred him to the shrub, certainly.) With his Kennedy ties, he has some bipartisan appeal, and he's made some sensible decisions, like about evoting machines.
esprix
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, no, as a candidate he's perfectly viable - I'm talking about the "Equal Opportunity to Govern" amendment that's been quietly put on the table for consideration.
nolly
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:31 pm (UTC)
*nod* Just saying I'm not really opposed to the amendment (and why), though, of course, I'd love to see ERA (or the equivalent) happen. (Although it seems fishy that the amendment text is nowhere I can find on the website...)
esprix
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:37 pm (UTC)
I'm neither for nor against Arnold per se, I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of what our current elected officials consider important enough to warrant changing the constitution. It's pathetic.

And drainbead brought up the same point about not finding the text on the website.
nolly
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:32 pm (UTC)
And, for the record, I don't think marriage belongs in the Constitution, period. I'd prefer gov't to have no more control over marriage than over any other contract.
darrelx
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:33 pm (UTC)
Oh, it hasn't been so quiet. Everytime Arnold is mentioned regarding any issue at all, it gets brought up.

It won't pass, though. No matter how much people like Arnold, there are WAY too many people who will think that allowing a foreigner to lead us (even post-naturalization) is a bad idea. That requirement was intended to prohibit someone who didn't grow up with our ideals from becoming the executive.

I think Arnold should concentrate on his children's political ambitions taking them to the white house (if they are so motivated, that is), not on trying to change the constitution for personal gain.

I, for one, will strongly defend the requirement for our president to be a natural born citizen of the United States, should it come to that... and I *like* Arnold. A smuch as I like him, though, I really don't think he should be trying to change the US Constitution to become president.


...and now, for some ridiculous analogy to be teased: The last Austrian-born leader of another country started WWII.
esprix
Nov. 15th, 2004 03:38 pm (UTC)
Like I said to nolly, I'm just disgusted at what our elected officials consider worthy of changing the constitution for.
writethewrongs
Nov. 16th, 2004 08:40 pm (UTC)
Well, duh.
esprix
Nov. 17th, 2004 12:34 am (UTC)
I know. I should know better by now, right? Still, gotta fight that good fight...
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