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Tuesday evening

Welp no gaming tonight (no one showed - again), but we had a fine time watching Deep Space Nine and Queer Eye and Myke made faboo chicken soft tacos for dinner. Daniel's been snappish, snipey and weirdly odd (or oddly weird) tonight. As if I were the only one to leave dirty dishes in the kitchen...

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jkusters
May. 5th, 2004 08:23 am (UTC)
It really comes down to different and mostly incompatible styles of handling dirty dishes. This has been a problem in the house for quite some time, but within my limits of toleration. Apparently, it is outside Daniel's limits.

One school of thought is that you let everything pile up until there are few clean dishes available any more, at which time a massive cleanup gets done and viola, there are clean dishes again. You seem to lean towards this camp.

Another school of though is that dishes are cleaned as they are dirtied, the dishwasher gets run as soon as it is full enough and emptied soon thereafter, and there is a continuous supply of clean dishes. I would like to be more in this camp, but don't always make it. I think Daniel is very much more on this end of the spectrum than you or I.

These two ends of the spectrum have a hard time co-existing. Personally, I have a bad habit that if I see dirty dishes sitting in the sink or on the counter, I assume that the dishwasher is full. Since I hate to empty the dishwasher (the only kitchen chore I actually hate, and I can't explain why), I generally find any excuse not to do so. Therefore, I not-quite-consciously contribute to the dirty dish problem. (However, if my dish has more than crumbs on it, I generally will make the token effort of rinsing it off.)

Hm, I'm now going to be late for work (curse you, Lutton!!! ;-), so I'll have to cut this short. Perhaps a "family" meeting is in order to talk about the kitchen situation and come up with some agreements we can all live with...

JOhn.
esprix
May. 5th, 2004 08:49 am (UTC)
My definition of "it's time to do the dishes" is usually the fact that we've run out of counter space.

And Daniel was just being Mr. Grumpy Puss last night. Bah. BAH, I say!
jkusters
May. 5th, 2004 09:14 am (UTC)
Like I said, different approaches to keeping the kitchen clean. And they conflict. I would much prefer to seek the kitchen kept a lot cleaner, but realize it will take getting off my lazy ass to do so. I think Daniel feels the same way, though his ass is much less lazy. The fact that other people in the house see things differently causes both of us considerable frustration. Again, we should probably meet as a household to find some acceptable middle-ground.

JOhn.
esprix
May. 5th, 2004 09:50 am (UTC)
I don't see the conflict. We've all been fairly good lately at doing our turn at the dishes, and I've noticed the kitchen has been looking better. If my syrupy plates bother Daniel that much, I'll make more of an effort to rinse them off (although I'm surprised he hasn't complained about the myriad other food items that require rinsing, like hardened oatmeal, ketchup, mustard, etc. - maybe it's just because they're mine). It's just... life. Housework sucks. We all do our part. It all evens out. blah blah blah...
jkusters
May. 5th, 2004 10:08 am (UTC)
See, the problem is that the "taking turns at doing dishes" works quite well for the approach that waits for the counters to fill up, but doesn't work at all well for the approach that keeps the kitchen continually clean. I prefer the continually clean approach, but am willing to tolerate (to an extent) the other approach. As I become more and more a homeowner, I am working to improve the way in which I handle things like housework. I'm done with the whole bachelor/student thing, and would like to live in a much cleaner abode.

I do see that there is a conflict. But I haven't done anything about it yet in the desire to keep a certain amount of accord within the house. But just because I don't complain about something doesn't mean I'm not frustrated or annoyed by it. Generally, I've just assumed that at some date in the future, you'd find a place of your own and I would have more control over things like housework. Therefore, I don't see a reason to bitch about it now. (And this is NOT a hint for you to move out soon. You're welcome to stay around as long as it takes for you to get completely sick of dealing with us. :-) The only reason we're even discussing this is because of the "high volume" discussions that happened last night.

JOhn.
esprix
May. 5th, 2004 10:23 am (UTC)
Time to get a "dishes are clean/dishes are dirty" magnet for the dishwasher.
adventdragon
May. 5th, 2004 11:39 am (UTC)
I gripe about the syrupy plates because this particular situation is by no means an infrequent/isolated incident. It ALWAYS happens. In the times I do the dishes, sometimes there may be crusted plates, or plates with ketchup, etc., but I can always count on a syrup coated plate that has hardened, and often encased a utinsil or two. Now perhaps last night my "snipey" sarcastic rant rubbed yourself and John the wrong way. The truth of the matter, I was more than willing to let it go as of last night. I apologize to both of you for the hornets nest this has apparently stirred.
esprix
May. 5th, 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
Well you were a bit more snappish than usual. I assumed something happened at work that you didn't want to talk about.

And I have rinsed most of my breakfast plates since you expressed your disdain the last time, but I did miss this one. Sorry. My only excuse is that I was sick.

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