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Do women find drag queens offensive? If so, why?

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estarcollector
Aug. 25th, 2012 09:32 pm (UTC)
I personally don't, even though they are usually prettier than I am!
ninfidelity
Aug. 25th, 2012 09:54 pm (UTC)
Not at all. I don't think it's about making fun of women - if anything, it seems to be more about finding an identity.

That, and it seems like fun.
toll_booth
Aug. 25th, 2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
I find them as offensive as women who dress like men.

Which is to say, not at all. :)
toll_booth
Aug. 27th, 2012 09:43 pm (UTC)
Crap, didn't read the post. "Do women find drag queens offensive?" Hell, probably depends on which one you ask...
caitlin_sd
Aug. 25th, 2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
Given that several of my friends did drag in college, I'd better not. It did take me a while to get used to using their drag names, but since I never saw them as trying to impersonate real women, it wasn't an issue. (The names mostly came about because there were 4 or 5 guys in the college Gay Alliance named David. The drag names--Blanche, Daisy, etc.--became an easy way to make clear who you were talking to or about.)
buddykat
Aug. 26th, 2012 01:04 am (UTC)
Why in the world would I? Unless they are actively trying to cause some sort of harm to someone else, I don't see what the point of getting worked about about it would be.
hannahrorlove
Aug. 26th, 2012 01:05 am (UTC)
I find them more perplexing than offensive. I understand it's meant in jest and fun - and I also can't see how, for all the effort, little of it is meant to produce a convincing persona. The reading I've done offered some explanation, that drag is intended for theatricality, and that is something I can recognize on an intellectual level. I spend so much of my time trying to blend in and focusing on that, the idea of going in the other direction on purpose takes a lot to deal with.
opalcat
Aug. 26th, 2012 01:17 am (UTC)
I don't find them offensive, however I watched (because I was staying with a friend and she was watching it--not by my choice!) an episode of RuPaul's Drag U where they took several middle aged women and gave them drag-queen makeovers... I found it humiliating. One of the women was very insecure about her appearance and "sexiness" or whathaveyou, and here they make her up like a cheap whore, basically, and have her do this embarrassing choreographed dance (together with the other women) to that horrible song "My Milkshake Brings All The Boys To The Yard" (basically a song about how she gets guys by jiggling her boobs)... it was ghastly! I mean, this woman has security issues to begin with and then you humiliate her on national television by making her do a tacky dance to an adolescent song while dressed like a drag queen? Yeah that's gonna leave scars.

So drag queens: totally ok.
Making middle aged women up to look like drag queens: uncomfortable.
esprix
Aug. 26th, 2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
By the same token, getting comfortable with going outrageous over the top makes one really comfortable with normal. :)
montrealais
Aug. 26th, 2012 05:15 am (UTC)
There's a certain stripe that regard drag as nothing but men offensively caricaturing women, but I have very little patience for this and regard it as completely ahistorical and to no small extent homophobic and transphobic.

Drag can certainly be done misogynistically (or racistly, or transphobically, etc....) as can any art form, but that's not an inherent part of it.
esprix
Aug. 26th, 2012 09:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that was the case with this woman.

This was in reply to a photo of a guy dressed as a female bellydancer in full body paint. It was clearly done as a "getup" (perhaps drag, perhaps a T doing something fun, perhaps just a costume - the motivations were unclear), and in fact it wasn't even clear that it was a biological male IMHO. This person said, "What's worse is that it's a guy." I called her on it, and she said it squicked her. When I posited that she might not be up on the latest theories of gender expression and gender identity, her reply was:

"Quite frankly, I don't give a shit what their problem is. I find it offensive. Period. Maybe they should respect other people's opinions about it and express themselves in the privacy of their own home -- instead of pushing their 'expression' onto others."

So I called her a homophobe, pointed out that, as a woman, she's told to keep her gender expression "in the closet" every fucking day by society, and if she couldn't see that, then I didn't have time to be her personal education experience, said goodbye and blocked her. :)
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